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SKATERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS TRICK! MUSKA FLIP? MUSKA HEEL?

Jonny Giger8 skaters recommend it · 59 mentions, 2021 to 2025
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239K views · 5 years ago · Tutorial · Intermediate

Jonny Giger sorts out hardflip, Muska flip and front shove-it, which skaters often mix up. He shows clips of each and explains what separates them.

Why skaters like it

Gets linked in threads where skaters argue if a trick is a hardflip, a Muska flip or a vertical pop shove-it.

“If anyone needs help understanding this, Jonny Giger has you covered”

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What skaters said on Reddit

u/Mainiac_NYC2022 · 11 points

If anyone needs help understanding this, Jonny Giger has you covered what is a Muska Flip? [VIDEO]

u/oldstalenegative2021 · 9 points

A hard flip is simply a frontside kickflip without the frontside body rotation. If your body rotates, but the board does not actually flip, then it's a "muska flip" ​ [VIDEO]

u/Azenia-2022 · 4 points

If you want it to be a proper hardflip though, it needs to have a front pop shuv to it with a full rotation kickflip. Apparently people get pissy about it, but pressure hardflips, though they kind of look like ollied hardflips and follow the same rotation, you land them with only a half flip. You don’t land them with the full kickflip. I did some searching and went through clips to find this out (like this one by Joh

u/aaron_siegler2025 · 3 points

The problem/ debate isn’t new: [VIDEO]

u/Soulaxer2023 · 2 points

You know what’s funny is Giger literally made a video on why OPs hardflip is indeed a hardflip. Giger just doesn’t normally do them that way, which is why his tutorial looks different. [VIDEO]

u/2namesmusic2023 · 2 points

Don't worry about the downvotes you're right & the downvoters never learned these. [VIDEO]

u/Specific-Plenty-8892022 · 1 points

Yeah I messed up on the rotation I’m going with illusion flip / muska heel , cheap hard flip best describes it [VIDEO]

u/boomgoon2022

[VIDEO] Just found this video and it makes me feel better. I never knew people called it a muska flip sometimes because we were doing it before he became famous after being sponsored by shortys. I ended up skating with some of the shortys crew back in the day too when they came to a city near me. It was fun and muska was kind of a dick. But still a great time